Is corruption a problem in Jersey Government ?

Boatyboy

All members of Jersey Government Senators, Deputies and Costables have just been informed that over a two year period files have been built up by a group of special officers employed by the Jersey police.

There is an outcry that police time has been wasted on leading members of our island Government.

May I offer a different view as a law abiding, seriously normal type of person in our society. If the police had me under investigation then it must be because they suspect me of wrong doing.

Fine the police have to do their job. As we as adults know only to well, don't judge a book by its cover.

There is far more this……………… it is very deep. Who ordered the police to check out the leaders of the land. Those that could by a signature make a lot of money by allowing big developments on what was / is publicly owned land, just give them a lease for a hundred and fifty years, just a real life example.

Local people powerless to stop the money machine for the elite ?

How about big England looking at a senator having a serious confrontation in the States and then being banned, sorry, that’s what he is there for right or wrong. Democracy not being played through.This would have upset MPs from every party.

Maybe higher powers want to know, if Jersey is corrupt at the core ..............the core being the Government Ministers and politicians who it appears now have a file and a photo.

As just a normal person, without any power or say, if a problem of honesty and integrity is being questioned, and the police force are under orders from Westminster. Bloody Terrific it shows someone cares, and of course the good guys and girls have nothing to fear.

Boatyboy

Paul

I for one would welcome any investigation into our Government Ministers, for me this has been long overdue.

UserName

Stuart keeps saying that the States is full of crooks, spivs, gangsters and shysters - so the SOJP are just doing their job investigating, LOL

Boatyboy

Yes it gets stranger, Police were worried that some States members could be blackmailed hence investigate them and put them under the micro scope. Plus some might be crooks or racists we are told in the press tonight.

It gets better in the hard copy of the JEP can you believe this, data commissioner Emma Martins is quoted as saying we will be carrying out a full investigation as to whether secret police dossiers on States members were held illegally!

I am no expert, however I was under the impression that the data protection law gave an individual the right to see any information held on file which directly related to that person.

Senator Le Marquand ( justice minister ) says however that some of the information is so sensitive that States members would not be able to see it even if they took up an invitation from Mr Warcup ( acting police chief ) to inspect their individual files.

Confused………………….. we all are, but Guernsey and the world please excuse our Jersey way of doing things we are quite rightly supposed to be proud of our democratic, efficient Government under the watch full eyes of the Council of Ministers and the Chief Minister Terry Le Suer.

Ongoing as I tap away, The chief of police for Jersey suspended under investigation, details of suspension not published.

Mr Day Senior Consultant surgeon, General Hospital suspended under investigation. The General Hospital work practices and staff ( including management ?) under investigation by outside none medical consultants Verita. They are trying to find out why a patient ( a nurse working at the said hospital ) died on the operating table during a non-life threatening operation.

Maverick Senator Syvret says the terms of reference for the enquiry are just a hospital management whitewash and wants the States to employ and set a full and meaningful remit and employ its own medical consultants.

Sorry if this is getting boring, The States of Jersey Treasury under investigation for loosing millions of pounds due to not taking out Euros and hedging currency sterling down turn, regarding the £103 million French contract to build the new incinerator.

Police investigation found four candidates (two seeking re-election) guilty of breaking the law and sent them to the Royal court. The two seeking re-election were fined ten thousand pounds and two thousand. Strangle as it may seem the Attorney General of Jersey said it was not in the public interest to bring the other two candidates to court for committing the same offence as it was not in the public interest.

The child abuse couple in France have been let off, however the investigation is far from over so we are told. The Attorney General has taken further legal advice he states.

The States of Jersey being asked to set up a private company (quango) to develop and sell £1.5 Billion pounds worth of public land and buildings all over Jersey. To become the Father of the disliked and cloudy Waterfront Enterprise Board (quango).

I am sure there is more, but to be frank I am making myself miserable, and you cannot enjoy a Mad Hatters tea party if you are miserable, can you !!

Boatyboy

crono

Is corruption a problem in Jersey Government?

I don't think there is any arguments about this, ofcourse the Jersey Government is corrupt, you just have to look at things over the past couple of years to know without doubt it is.

As far as i am concerned we should have something in place to put our politicians under the microscope, this may help change the way some of then go about the business they do, jobs to help the boys and to help line your own pockets must be looked at very closely.

UserName

Is corruption a problem?
No, it's going really well for them

millerthegorilla

Is corruption a problem or a by product of a malfunctioning system - not wishing to suggest that our ministerial government might be malfunctioning in any way.

It is fair to say that societies can be divided in to groups at some level. The shared interest groups most useful to those with political power are those that will provide them with the most powerful return at elections. This leaves us as islanders prey to the whim of large bodies of shared interest groups - a lot of people's futures in the hands of the few.
This is why independent representation fairs better over party political organizations in the local context.

Of course, the substance and style of a democratic system is resolved by the way in which it handles the interests of the minority groups. In Jersey there are a few majority groups and many minority groups and I use the term minority group in as broad terms as possible - from the portuguese and polish groups, to the demographic as a whole when considered as a consumer group,to the nurses, mentally ill, middle management, families etc. Under representation of any one of the many minority shared interest groups by a political system is less than acceptable as it will lead to the very thing that we perceive daily - corruption.

A move forward would be to consider an electoral system that maximised the 'fairness' of electoral outcomes by considering the interests of minorities. There exists an electronic way of doing this that could be instituted fairly cheaply.

ACP

Of course investigations should take place into the corrupt gangsters we have running this island. If there is nothing to hide they have nothing to fear.

crapaud

who is it said that a country / island / town etc,.. has the politicians it deserves..

well m´a boy, ahm a sent ineer and been cents in eer to see what all the fuss is abaht.

Q E D

Judge Dredd

My argument would be that there is corruption in all governments, perhaps the more enthusiastic they are to get into the power the more suspicious you have to be of their intentions?