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View Vote P41/2008/Amd.
Draft GST (Jersey) Law 2007 (Appointed Day) (Amendment) Act 200- (P.41-2008)-Amendment of Senator Len Norman 02 April 2008

Proposition:
Draft GST (Jersey) Law 2007 (Appointed Day) (Amendment) Act 200- (P.41-2008)-Amendment


Hi Here is the official list.

POUR: 17 CONTRE: 27 ILL: 3 OUT OF ISLAND: 1 EN DEFAUT: 1 NOT PRESENT: 4


Senator Stuart Syvret

POUR


Senator Leonard Norman

POUR


Senator Frank Harrison Walker

CONTRE


Senator Wendy Kinnard

ILL


Senator Terence Augustine Le Sueur

CONTRE


Senator Paul Francis Routier

CONTRE


Senator Michael Edward Vibert

CONTRE


Senator Philip Francis Cyril Ozouf

CONTRE


Senator Terence John Le Main

CONTRE


Senator Ben Edward Shenton

NOT PRESENT


Senator Frederick Ellyer Cohen

EN DEFAUT


Senator James Leslie Perchard

CONTRE


Connétable Kenneth Priaulx Vibert

CONTRE


Connétable Kenneth Alan Le Brun

POUR


Connétable Thomas John du Feu

NOT PRESENT


Connétable Derek Frederick Gray

POUR


Connétable Alan Simon Crowcroft

OUT OF ISLAND


Connétable John Le Sueur Gallichan

CONTRE


Connétable Geoffrey William Fisher

CONTRE


Connétable Daniel Joseph Murphy

CONTRE


Connétable Michael Keith Jackson

CONTRE


Connétable Silvanus Arthur Yates

CONTRE


Connétable Graeme Frank Butcher

POUR


Connétable Peter Frederick Maurice Hanning

CONTRE


Deputy Robert Charles Duhamel

POUR


Deputy Alan Breckon

POUR


Deputy Jacqueline Jeannette Huet

CONTRE


Deputy Frederick John Hill, B.E.M.

NOT PRESENT


Deputy Gerard Clifford Lemmens Baudains

POUR


Deputy Peter Nicholas Troy

POUR


Deputy Celia Joyce Scott Warren

ILL


Deputy Roy George Le Hérissier

POUR


Deputy John Benjamin Fox

CONTRE


Deputy Judith Ann Martin

POUR


Deputy Geoffrey Peter Southern

POUR


Deputy Sarah Craig Ferguson

CONTRE


Deputy James Gordon Reed

CONTRE


Deputy Patrick John Dennis Ryan

CONTRE


Deputy Carolyn Fiona Labey

CONTRE


Deputy Collin Hedley Egré

ILL


Deputy Jacqueline Ann Hilton

POUR


Deputy Guy William John de Faye

CONTRE


Deputy Paul Vincent Francis Le Claire

POUR


Deputy John Alexandre Nicholas Le Fondré

CONTRE


Deputy Deidre Wendy Mezbourian

POUR


Deputy Anne Enid Pryke

CONTRE


Deputy Sean Power

POUR


Deputy Shona Pitman

NOT PRESENT


Deputy Alan John Henry Maclean

CONTRE


Deputy Kevin Charles Lewis

POUR


Deputy Andrew David Lewis

CONTRE


Deputy Ian Joseph Gorst

CONTRE


Deputy Juliette Gallichan

CONTRE

Paul

Looking in the JEP tonight i see FLYBE have said they wanted payed for collecting GST. I think everyone should ask the same question, why should we do extra work for the States and get no payment for it.

Paul

Does anyone know the answer to this?

My friend has a local business that is currently under the £300.000 threshold for GST. Now he has a problem, because he is under the threshold he does not need to register for GST in return he cannot charge GST to his customers. You would think that is it, business as usual, but no no no. He still has to pay GST for stock he buys if his order is over £400, because he is not registered he cannot claim this back, most small businesses in Jersey will buy in bulk to cut costs and their stock orders will mostly be over the £400. How can this be? Have the states made a big mistake? Or has anyone got an answer?

Haggis

Will ask my boss - he might be able to answer this one???

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David Rotherham

Small businesses buying a lot of GST paid stock should voluntarily register. It all depends whether the money is worth the paperwork.

clairejohnson

If you register does that not mean you have to pay and charge GST? Small businesses should not need to do either.

Haggis

Asked one of our bosses (Operations Manager) about the above and this is his reply -

"No mistake, however your friend does have the option of registering for GST. This would allow him to charge GST and therefore claim GST on products he buys to offset what he needs to send to the treasury."

"Otherwise, costs go up, prices go up. Inflation is bound to follow."

He also added that if your friend doesn't register he would have to add 3% to what he charges so he does not lose out....thus putting himself at an immediate competitive disadvantage.

Not sure if any of this informs you any more than you already are?

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Paul

Thank's for that Haggis, it's pretty much what we already knew. I can see visions of boarded up shops in the High Street.

Haggis

So can i.....except for those dodgy ones that have been fleecing jersey residents rotten for years with vastly overflated retails which are more than UK prices, which include VAT....

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Jsysco

And you'll have no idea of just how much they're fleecing you...

"GST will not be on receipts

ISLANDERS will not know how much GST they are paying when they go to the shops next week.

A last-minute attempt to include GST on till receipts failed by just two votes yesterday.

The introduction of the 3% sales tax is less than a week away, and Members almost backed a move by the Economic Scrutiny Panel to require anyone giving a receipt to show the amount of GST paid.

They voted 23 to 21 to reject it, but only after Chief Minister Frank Walker and Treasury Minister Terry Le Sueur (pictured)accepted that it was a good idea in the long term.

But they argued that with just six days left to the start of the tax being levied, the change was too late in the day."

JEP 30/04/08